Partner Spotlight: Cymbiotika, Part I

Michael Roesslein:

And we’re live. I am here with Chervin Jafarieh, the founder and formulator from Cymbiotika. Chervin, thanks for being here.

Chervin Jafarieh:

It’s great to be here. Thank you.

Michael Roesslein:

I’m excited. I actually just found out about your product line a few months ago, and out of all the expansion we just did with our shop, we added more products from your line than any of the other brands that we’re starting with because I just… I really like them. It’s a really well rounded line of products, great formulas, liposomal delivery.

               So, before we get into that, I want to introduce you. I think a lot of our audience is probably familiar with you. They listen to your podcast, or they’re familiar with some of your other work. But for those who don’t know, Chervin’s one of the most respected and influential health experts in the world. At an early age, he was mentored by some of the world’s top health authorities and quickly developed a deep passion and curiosity that drove him to question and expand upon everything he was taught.

               He grew up learning the fundamentals of biodynamic farming, and was influenced by a sophisticated curriculum that focused on both the right and left brain development to improve neuroplasticity and increase his ability to learn. He’s got platforms, social media, podcasts, interviews, live shares, deep insights on areas of studies such as Eastern and Western medicine, orthomolecular medicine, epigenetics, physiology, nutrition, detox, biodynamic agricultural philosophy, a lot of stuff. You’re into a lot of cool things. A lot of that, our audience is also into. You founded Cymbiotika in 2017, which is an innovative wellness company that designs sophisticated organic nutritional formulations scientifically proven to increase vitality and longevity by filling the nutritional gaps from a typical modern day diet. Mission is stated. It is to inspire individuals to take ownership of their health through proper nutritional supplementation and sound education. That’s a lot of words there, but I’d like to hear it in your words. How did this company come about? Why’d you want to create it? Where the idea come from, and what’s really the passion behind it?

Chervin Jafarieh:

Yeah, thank you for that intro. It’s just finding the holes of where we are today versus where we were before, and that’s the biodynamic background. Our whole motto here is how you do anything’s how you do everything. And so, we are not supposed to be taking supplements. We’re not supposed to be doing all these things. We’re supposed to be getting our nutrition from our food, from our soil, from the biotics, from the touch of everything being grown to perfection. But that world’s changed. It’s de-evolved across the board and we can’t put our head in the sand. And so, I was brought up in a household and around mentors that took me back to a lot of the ancient philosophies, a lot of the ancient wisdom, which helped me develop empathy at an early age. And that empathy gave me a big concern for people’s health, including my own health. And that drove me to keep learning, keep learning, and put myself around some of the smartest people in the world.

               So, I’ve had that opportunity at an early age with Waldorf education, also going into a lot of Rudolf Steiner’s work. And then from there, just taking my own path and journey and understanding biochemistry on a deep fundamental level. That took me directly to orthomolecular medicine. Orthomolecular medicine is the education that a lack of nutrients leads us directly to cellular degeneration, disease, premature aging. And you topple that on with all the stuff that’s going on in our world, all the fear, all the poisons, all the toxicities, we never really had a chance, and that’s the reason why we’re in the shape we are in fundamentally as a society and every major system has fallen apart.

               So, Cymbiotika was birthed with that nuances to come help plug in a lot of those holes. I don’t like to look at us as a supplement company. I see us more as a movement, an educational system. I teach everyone to practice their own discernment. It’s really important that people fundamentally learn what and how their body functions on. And that’s how this thing has grown so rapidly over the last four or five years, where we have people now taking ownership of their health. And so, in terms of the product line, I wanted to design sophisticated products that not only have a very well-read label, but are actually bioavailable, and that you’re actually absorbing the nutrients. Because we know we are what we eat, but more importantly, we are what we can absorb.

               And so, it’s a very comprehensive, I would say, portfolio of high-end, nutrient-based high source products that are designed and created at a very, very rapid clip.

               And what I mean by that is all our products are made to order. Essentially, we’re going through batches every eight to 10 weeks on just about every skew. Our products aren’t meant to sit in someone’s cupboard for two years. These are live, raw materials that are essentially food-based formed, and that’s one of the most important things I think to distinguish us from other brands. Not only are we liquid, or liposomes, or raw plant extracts, but they’re as fresh as they can be.

               It’s been an exciting journey. We have a really, really sound team at Cymbiotika. We just opened up our campus down in San Diego, California. So, you have everything in house. We don’t outsource anything, and that’s really important to know when it comes to a company that’s doing things the right way. Our customer service, our design engineers, our chemists, our formulators, they’re all in house under our roof. I think, that’s another identifying factor that separates us from many companies. My whole thing is I’m not trying to compete with anyone out there. I want everyone to get healthy. I want to call people higher and say, “Look, we got to do things the right way.” That’s really what Cymbiotika stands for.

Michael Roesslein:

Thanks for sharing all that, and I’m sure that your upbringing around biodynamic farming has something to do with your almost obsession for quality, or purity, or live fresh ingredients. Because I know it’d be a lot easier to make a million of something at once and then sell it over the next year than it is to continually be having to keep up with batches. I didn’t even know that until you just said it that that’s how you guys are kind of going right now. But I know the headache that that can cause and how it’s easier to just be like, “Okay, well, we’ll just make 500,000 units of that, and then we’ll sit on it.”

               But what was that like growing up around that quality of food and connection to nature and learning about the cycles and all that? I grew up in a very different place and very different environment, so I’m kind of just half jealous, half curious.

Chervin Jafarieh:

I feel you on that. It was split down the middle, similar like you in a sense where… I grew up in San Diego, California. I surfed my whole life. I was around just every type of walk of life you can imagine which was good for me. It’s good to see other sides of the coin, right? Without shadow, you can’t have light. And so, to be integrated, though, with that cosmology and that philosophy at such an early age, it really engineered and constructed my mind frame and my purpose. It showed me that there are subtle energies in this world outside of instant gratification. And the subtlety of our nature, the subtlety of our connection to our mother, all these things had a profound effect on my ability to see clearly on every sense.

               And it was pure inspiration throughout the process that there’s something more than what just I was being taught in mainstream school and state-sponsored school, and specifically biodynamics. The purpose around biodynamics is not to just make mineralized, nutrient-dense food. Specifically, it’s around connecting the human soul to the earth and really taking on the stewardship on an authentic level, as opposed to just the maniacal, we are the top of the species, mowing everything down in nature and thinking technology can get ahead of everything that we’re doing. No, it’s quite the opposite. It’s very close to my ancient Persian roots in terms of mysticism and connection, similar with our friends at the Native American church. It’s these types of awarenesses and love that’s born through traditions, which is part of my makeup. And that directly affects every thought and decision I make today with the direction Cymbiotika is going.

Michael Roesslein:

Beautiful. Do you go to Waldorf for your whole schooling?

Chervin Jafarieh:

Not my whole, but for a few years, I did. In the middle section, like middle school area.

Michael Roesslein:

Cool. All right.

Chervin Jafarieh:

During summer programs, all those types of things.

Michael Roesslein:

Yeah. It’d be a better place if everybody were raised in those schools, for sure. I have a couple friends that are Waldorf teachers.

Chervin Jafarieh:

Okay.

Michael Roesslein:

I didn’t even know about it when I was at school age and it’s something I learned about as an adult, but I’m now familiar with the curriculum and the different way of growing a mind, I guess I would call it, versus indoctrinating one.

               But we’re going to talk about the products that we’ve started with to add to our shop. I just want to get into each one a little bit and familiarize people, help them make educated decisions on what’s right for them. I think you kind of spoke to that a little bit in your introduction around it’s more than just a supplement company, it’s a movement. You’re wanting to educate people and help them figure out, and make informed sovereign decisions for themselves in what might be right.

               So, I think, we’ll probably start… Let’s start with the Adrenal Super Tonic because I don’t think there’s anyone in modern society right now, maybe there is, but I don’t know them, who isn’t pretty stressed to the max and probably couldn’t use a little bit of adrenal support. So, there’s Adrenal Super Tonic…. I’ll just let you go into that one and we’ll riff on that.

Chervin Jafarieh:

Yeah, no problem. You could see there’s a complex amount of ayurvedic and TCM herbs in that product. And that product specifically comes from our bio farm up in Sebastopol, California, where we have a lot of essences that are grown, in that formula, in that farm that we use in that. And specifically, I always like to talk about the guava leaf extract which has such a strong ability to really feed the thyroid and to feed multiple areas in the body that create balance.

               That product is very rare in terms of… It’s all water extracted. So, you’re getting basically a hundred percent bioavailability in that product. I use that. It’s very versatile in the way that you can use it. It’s stress reliever, but it’s also going to build momentum in your energy storages. It’s also a cleansing product. It’s got black pigments in there which is always… That [inaudible 00:12:35] energy, things like that, and just the way that whole thing was constructed. A very legendary mentor of mine, we sat down and put that whole thing together. It took some time. It took about six, seven months for us to kind of figure out how we wanted to do this, and it’s become almost like a cult favorite. I wouldn’t say it’s our top sellers because it’s very unique flavor. But for people that are into ayurveda, into TCM, understand what bitters are, and all those things, they just can’t let that go, including myself.

Michael Roesslein:

I’m interested for the flavor. I have some on the way over here. I live in Italy, so getting things over here isn’t always the easiest situation. So, I have some stuff in route with a visitor that’s coming.

Chervin Jafarieh:

Right. You’re going to like it a lot.

Michael Roesslein:

I’ll like it? Yeah. I’ve taken a lot of bitter herbal type extracts before, but I see a lot of adaptogens in here. So, this is stuff really to help someone’s physiology cope with, or manage, or deal with day to day stressors or acute stressors. I read some of the reviews on your side of this one, and it was people literally, like, “I feel like I was never alive before this and now I can handle my day without being drained by noon.” So, this is just a really solid stress support, whether it’s an acute stress, or a chronic stress, or you just feel depleted and kind of like your body, isn’t able to be resilient with stress, right?

Chervin Jafarieh:

Yeah. I mean, it’s not a drug, right? Drug, you’re going to have to rob something to gain something. This is opposite.

Michael Roesslein:

Yeah.

Chervin Jafarieh:

You’re allowing your faculties to rev up and it’s only momentum going in a direction. It’s filled with adaptogens. What are adaptogens? It’s our ability to be malleable, our ability to bend and not break, our ability to take on how a lot of these herbs are supporting themselves in nature, just like a medicinal mushroom or some kind of ayurvedic herb, those things. The holy basil, tulsi, these things, they allow you to take on that consciousness, and you bring it into your body, and then you can use that in your every day. That’s just the only way I look at these types of nutrients.

Michael Roesslein:

Perfect. And it says here 12 pumps daily. I’m guessing that’s a general recommendation that each person can kind of play around and see where their sweet spot is. Maybe less, maybe more in acute times.

Chervin Jafarieh:

Absolutely, especially with that product. That product’s flexible in terms of dosage, but that’s a standard dosage.

Michael Roesslein:

Okay, great. And anything else you want to say about Adrenal Super Tonic before we go on to the next?

Chervin Jafarieh:

I like taking it in the evening. That’s kind of my [inaudible 00:15:39].

Michael Roesslein:

Interesting.

Chervin Jafarieh:

Yeah, I like taking it in the evening. Just kind of puts me into that later stages. But if you’re someone that’s pounding coffee all day long, it’s not a bad idea to have something like that along with our Shilajit, then you’re hitting it on all forces.

Michael Roesslein:

I didn’t drink coffee before I moved here to Italy and it’s actually, I think, almost illegal to not. People think you’re a bit of an outsider, so I started to drink it a little bit and it’s much better, one, and two, but I don’t want to have to drink it. And so, in the past, if I’ve ever done caffeine regularly… I’m going to go into the Shilajit so I’m bringing this up. Because I got a hold of some of this over here already. I started to drink it every day. And in the past, whenever I’ve drank caffeine every day, I get pretty nasty headaches and withdrawal symptoms if I come off it. And last week is when my Shilajit got here. If you don’t know what Shilajit is, you’re going to find out in a second. It’s this deliciously gooey… Delicious is not exactly the word I would use, but it’s this delicious-looking gooey black paste. I’ve stopped drinking the coffee and nothing happened.

Chervin Jafarieh:

Yeah.

Michael Roesslein:

So, I don’t know if that’s a… Because I look at this, and things like cordyceps, mushrooms, and a couple other things, I think, would probably be helpful. I’ve been like, “I’m going to try these.” And I’ve had no serious withdrawal issues. So, what the heck is Shilajit, for people who don’t know? I know you’re a big fan of… I’ve heard you talk about this product on podcasts and elsewhere, so I know you’re pretty passionate about this one. What is this stuff? What makes it so powerful and incredible, and how do you use it?

Chervin Jafarieh:

Well, it’s the cornerstone of ayurveda. It translates to conquer of weakness, you know? And it’s been used by the ancient [inaudible 00:17:48] for thousands of years recorded history. It’s basically a mineral pitch resin, comes from the earth. It’s filled with terpenes, fats, nutrients, 84 trace minerals, all kinds of plant biotics that have [inaudible 00:18:06], essentially what we call fossil fuel.

Michael Roesslein:

Yeah, because this is from dinosaur age, yeah?This is…

Chervin Jafarieh:

I can’t speculate about dinosaurs, or anything like that…

Michael Roesslein:

Okay.

Chervin Jafarieh:

… but what I… It’s definitely plant materials that’ve decomposed in the earth, and combination with fulvic and humic acid, you have those types of energies, those are forces of this earth. You combine that with plant nutrition and all that stuff, and you get this black tar. And so, we source from seven or eight different places in the world, the highest peaks. And that’s where this Shilajit came in.

               There’s so many uses for it. As you mentioned it’s not a stimulant in terms of it doesn’t release cortisol to put you into fight flight so you feel hyped up like coffee does. It’s not a drug like caffeine. What it does do is it basically electrolizes your body. So, we’re on the awareness that our body’s an electrical system before it’s a chemical one. That’s why we grounded on earth. That’s why we get in the front of the sun. That’s why we do red light therapy. That’s why we do all these things. That’s why we hydrate with the best spring water. And so, Shilajit is the mineralization of the body. The size of the minerals is very key here, so there’s very high uptake across the board. And it’s also super critical that we keep a balance of acid and alkalinity in our body.

               Shilajit does a great job in terms of pushing out acidosis in parts of the body that we don’t want to be building up metabolic waste and things of that nature. People that are on the standard American diet or eating a lot of processed foods, they built up a lot of acids and certain tissues, so Shilajit is just something that the versatility of it is incredible. It’s Jing, again, it’s that black color, which is kidney, liver energy, keeps you going throughout the day. It’s non-caloric, too, so if you like to do intermittent fasting or extended period of times of fasting. I love the idea of Shilajit being a main player in that whole process.

Michael Roesslein:

Yeah. Thanks for sharing all that. It’s really cool. It’s really cool stuff. The more I learn about it, the more excited about it I am. I’ve only been taking this one. I’ve taken Shilajit in the past, but this one packs quite a punch. I definitely feel an aliveness that’s, like you said, it’s not jittery, it’s not like caffeine, not like sugar. It’s just more natural energy. And can you tell me a little bit… If somebody’s unfamiliar with taking this stuff, it comes to this cool metal, I don’t know what the name for this is, spoon-type object. I’ve just been dipping it in, and then I swirl it around in a little bit of water until it’s dissolved. Hot water would probably work better or faster. I’m using room temperature water. In the past, I’ve just put it in my mouth and sucked on it, and that’s pretty hardcore. How do you take it? How do you recommend people take it?

Chervin Jafarieh:

Yeah. So, that spoon right there is non-degradable in a sense. You don’t want to use a regular spoon with Shilajit because of the fulvic acid. It can strip off the metal from the spoon, whatever that metal’s made of, nickel or whatever, and you don’t want that stuff. And so, that spoon specifically is safe for usage.

               There’s many ways of using it. I would say, for me, ideally, I like using it with tea or just warm water. I don’t do boiling scolding hot water, because you don’t want to damage the resin, but warm, hot water is fine. You can also roll it into a ball and then just swallow it. If you just don’t like the taste. Our whole thing here is that when you start acquiring the taste for Shilajit, that’s a good sign in your body.

Michael Roesslein:

I’m not quite there yet. I wouldn’t say I dislike the taste, but it is a taste. I’ll just put it that way.

Chervin Jafarieh:

But it creeps up on you just like anything else. You start to [inaudible 00:22:26], and then your brain wiring changes.

Michael Roesslein:

Yeah, I’m sure. I’ve already noticed a little bit of a shift, but, yeah, it’s powerful stuff. In the morning, best time for this probably, or just whenever you’re feeling kind of run down? I do it first thing in the morning.

Chervin Jafarieh:

Yeah. I think that’s the main ritual, but you’re not limited to that. So, whatever…

Michael Roesslein:

Okay.

Chervin Jafarieh:

… but I like it earlier in the day for sure.

Michael Roesslein:

Yeah. There’s a lot in there. It’s a small little jar, but a little bit goes a long way with this stuff, so it’s quite a bit. It’s a good amount in the jar there.

Chervin Jafarieh:

Yeah.

Michael Roesslein:

It will go… Yeah, it’s good. I can imagine the process of sourcing that, because I know where it comes from is often pretty obscure.

Chervin Jafarieh:

Yeah.

Michael Roesslein:

High Himalayas-type locations. I’ve heard of the brand. You partnered with Purblack, right? This is a…

Chervin Jafarieh:

Yes. I partnered with Purblack.

Michael Roesslein:

Okay.

Chervin Jafarieh:

We just changed the formula a little bit. Added a little bit more gold, and a little bit more silver.

Michael Roesslein:

All right, let’s go… Let’s do this one. This is one of my favorite things, and it’s simple, and it’s inexpensive, and it’s a great addition to the daily routine in people who are living. You mentioned earlier, we have the depleted soils and we have the depleted food, and you mix that in with the high stress and the toxic environment, and people don’t really have a chance. Molecular Hydrogen, something I learned about probably four or five years ago. I took the one from Quicksilver Scientific for a while, H2 Elite, and it was so simple. I had somebody come on from the Molecular Hydrogen Institute, which I didn’t know was a thing, but I had him on a webinar and he talked about it and how it’s really just a really gentle antioxidant, anti-inflammatory. It kind of is a modulator, regulator in the body, and it works in a way that kind of… It goes where it’s needed, it does what’s needed, and hydrogen’s used throughout the whole body. And so, it’s just a really good, basic, simple thing that people can add that will kind of contribute to homeostasis. Am I far off base there?

Chervin Jafarieh:

No, you’re right on the level. That’s exactly what Molecular Hydrogen does. It goes exactly where it needs to go. The first element on the periodic table and the smallest element that we know of, and it acts as a neutralizer of the one of the most dangerous free radicals in the body called hydroxyl. Hydroxyl acts like a chaotic bull in a [inaudible 00:25:08], just destroying everything in its path, and that’s essentially what aging’s all about; oxidative stress, then you have free radicals that are stealing electrons from different parts of the body. Hydroxyl attacks us at the subcellular level at the DNA. And so, molecular hydrogen goes in there and it blends itself in electron and neutralizes that deep, deep in our cells. We can’t find anything even close to that. There’s no vitamin C, no CoQ10, no nothing, not even glutathione.

               And it also recruits other antioxidants like our own endogenous production of glutathione and superoxide dismutase, that’s a very important antioxidant, catalase, things like that. And so, it’s just one of those things that… It’s an experience for sure, and we love it. We can’t stop. We’re doing about two doses a day on average, depending on our workload, depending on if we’re out on crazy hikes, or if we’re training and stuff like that. I have all my top assets on it. It’s incredibly versatile, and it just seems like this is going to be a staple for life.

Michael Roesslein:

Yeah, me too. I mean, it’s something I’ll never probably take out of my own personal regimen. It’s another thing I drink in the morning. I’ll have another one at night. If my day was particularly physically challenging in some way, or if I’m not feeling too hot. But it’s really simple. These are little tablets that you just drop in water and they fizz a little bit, dissolve, then you drink the water. And so, there’s no pills. There’s nothing to take there, really easy. I take one to two a day.

               And he mentioned the hydroxyl on the webinar as well. It was a couple years back. We have that on the site if people want to go find it. It’s in the video area. We have a video training on hydrogen. But it’s just super versatile and really benevolent. You’re not going to mess anything up with this one. It just goes where it’s needed, and it’s literally just hydrogen. And people are like, “Hydrogen does anything?” And it’s, “Yeah, it’s literally the most common molecule in the body, of course it would do something.”

               Do you guys just recently add this? Because I didn’t see this about six months ago when I first started scoping the products.

Chervin Jafarieh:

Yeah, this came out I believe six weeks ago.

Michael Roesslein:

Okay, cool. We caught it right at the right time then. So, great addition to any foundational protocol I would say. And let’s go into…

Chervin Jafarieh:

We’re on a stretch because of the airport. I’m just getting signaled. I think we can do like one more.

Michael Roesslein:

Okay.

Chervin Jafarieh:

Yeah.

               We got to go? How much time do we have?

Speaker 3:

I’d say, six minutes.

Chervin Jafarieh:

I have six minutes.

Michael Roesslein:

All right, we’ll do one more. And then, I think we can try to record.

Chervin Jafarieh:

I think we can get a couple more. Let’s just go for it.

Michael Roesslein:

All right. Well, ready, go. Here’s Golden Mind. This is Nootropic, combating cognitive decline. So, there’s a lot of stuff in here. I’ll throw the ingredients up here and you can have at it.

Chervin Jafarieh:

I mean, adaptogens, brain adaptogens. I’m not really for synthetics, especially with the brain. I love that product right here. We’re all taking that daily. It’s the Lion’s Mane extract as well, so you’re getting the extract version of lion’s mane, not just the matter. And it’s in liposomal form.

               So, we can just talk about liposomes real quick. This was a pharmaceutical application to get nutrients in the body to make sure they’re bioavailable. We’re supposed to be getting nutrition from food, remember? And so, if you’re just taking pills and capsules of certain fat soluble ingredients and even some adaptogens, you’re not quite getting the actual absorption rate because it’s going through the stomach, then it’s got to make its way to large intestines, all of those things. And sometimes, our hydrochloric acid wipes out a lot of these nutrients that are supposed to be protected by certain things. And so, encapsulating it in a phospholipid protects it. So, it comes in, makes its way to large intestines, starts to disintegrate, and then eventually makes it into the bloodstream fully intact. And so, a product like Golden Mind, you’re getting a lot of these adaptogens. You’re getting a lot of these brain nutrients, but you’re getting it in lyposome form. It’s basically [inaudible 00:29:40] and that’s what we’re finding as one of the best ways to get nutrient uptake. I love that product.

Michael Roesslein:

And you got the Lion’s Mane, too. I love Lion’s Mane. I’ve been taking it for a few years. Brain neuro stuff is my own challenge. I have a history of concussions from sports, and I’m worried about neurodegeneration, so Lion’s Mane, Theanine, Phosphatidylcholine. I see a lot of familiar… Bacopa. I see a lot of familiar friends in here. Great brain tonic, great cognitive, great nootropic, just focused brain mental capacity, neurodegeneration-prevention type formula.

Chervin Jafarieh:

That-

Michael Roesslein:

And it comes in the packets.

Chervin Jafarieh:

Yeah. It comes in the… That product, in combination with the Magnesium L-Threonate, is just-

Michael Roesslein:

I’ll roll into that one. You can keep riffing on that, I’ll bring that one up.

Chervin Jafarieh:

Yeah. Magnesium, one of the most important minerals to man. It’s a co-factor. It’s involved with so many biological processes. The subatomic charge on magnesium is what allows cells to properly communicate. It’s also our mineral for stress. So, stress is up, magnesium storage is burned off. I mean, there’s so many different ways to explain what magnesium does in the body. So, because we’re depleted, it’s not in our food, it’s not in our nutrient-dense food, we’re getting depleted throughout our body and even more so in the brain. So, couple doctors at MIT, they figured out to combine magnesium with threonic acid, and this specific nutrient creates a pathway into the brain at a very, very high clip. And so, this is actually, I think, our top seller at Cymbiotika, is our Magnesium L-Threonate product. This is liposomal form. You’re getting 1300 milligrams per serving. I do one to two a day depending on my day. And so this, with our Golden Mind, with our Molecular Hydrogen, with our Shilajit, it’s like game on in terms of nutrient absorption and getting the right things in your body.

Michael Roesslein:

And Mag Threonate’s another one I’ve been taking for quite a while, and I actually notice… I just switched to yours, but before that I noticed… I have a history of anxiety and I’ve noticed that L-Theanine, which was in Golden Mind, and Mag Threonate are my two kind of key nutrients, where if I have those in adequate amounts, my mind slows down quite a bit, and the racing mind gets more negotiable.

               So, Mag Threonate, like you mentioned, it’s the form of magnesium that crosses the blood-brain barrier effectively, developed at MIT. Magtein’s the name brand, but 1300 milligrams is a lot. That’s about as much as I’ve seen in a single serving product and it’s liposomal, so this is quite a bit that you’re getting per serving here.

               One serving is probably pretty adequate for a lot of people, because I’ve seen… I’ve had to take four or five, six capsules of that stuff whenever I’ve taken it in the past. I like your pouches replaces handfuls of pills. I’m always going to be for that. And if it’s better absorption, then it’s a double win.

               So, the Mag Threonate and the Golden Mind, kind of a brain super duo there. We went over the Shilajit, and the Molecular Hydrogen, and the Adrenal Super Tonic.

               I’ll try to catch up with you. I know you got to go to a plane, so I’ll try to catch up with you in the near future. Maybe we could do just a few minutes and grab some of the other ones. Just get your feedback on some of the other ones [inaudible 00:33:21]…

Chervin Jafarieh:

That’s not a problem.

Michael Roesslein:

… around those, so we can add some videos. But, thanks for jumping on. Thanks for making such awesome stuff, really, for lack of a technical term. It’s really high quality, really high deliverability, bioavailability. Everything’s organic or beyond organic, highly absorbable, and it’s really clear that you guys really care about the effectiveness of these products. It’s not just about making a product and making a company. It’s about putting things out there that will impact people’s lives in a positive way and help them bring them back towards that natural state where we’ve kind of fallen off from. So, Chervin, thank you for sharing so much and for being here. Much appreciated.

Chervin Jafarieh:

Of course.

Michael Roesslein:

Safe travels and we’ll catch up soon.

Chervin Jafarieh:

Yeah. Big love to you, man. I appreciate what you’re doing, and I’m here for it. So, we’ll make it happen again, bro.

Michael Roesslein:

All right, cool. Thanks. Have a good one.

Chervin Jafarieh:

Okay, everybody. Take care. Bye.